Another study on prayer (newsworthy?)

Study: Praying for health of heart patients has no effect
By MALCOLM RITTER - AP Science Writer - 03/31/06
NEW YORK — Does praying for a sick person’s recovery do any good?
In the largest scientific test of its kind, heart surgery patients showed no benefit when strangers prayed for their recovery.And patients who knew they were being prayed for had a slightly higher rate of complications. Doctors could only guess why.Several scientists questioned the concept of the study.Science ‘‘is not designed to study the supernatural,’’ said Dr. Harold G. Koenig, director of the Center for Spirituality, Theology and Health at the Duke University Medical Center.The researchers emphasized that their $2.4 million study could not address whether God exists or answers prayers made on another’s behalf. The study could look only for an effect from the specific prayers offered as part of the research, they said.

The study ‘‘did not move us forward or backward’’ in understanding the effects of prayer, said Dr. Charles Bethea, a co-author and cardiologist at the Integris Baptist Medical Center in Oklahoma City. ‘‘Intercessory prayer under our restricted format had a neutral effect.’’Dr. Herbert Benson of Harvard Medical School, co-principal investigator of the study, agreed. ‘‘We cannot come to a conclusion, except to say that by this study design, with its limitations, this is what we found,’’ he said.Researchers also said they didn’t know why patients who knew they were being prayed for had a higher rate of complications than patients who only knew that such prayers were a possibility.Maybe they became anxious by the knowledge that they’d been selected for prayers, Bethea said: ‘‘Did the patients think, ‘I am so sick that they had to call in the prayer team?’’’The researchers said family and friends shouldn’t be discouraged from telling a patient about their plans to pray for a good recovery. The study only focused on prayers by strangers, they said.It’s the largest and best-designed study ever to test the medical effects of intercessory prayers — praying on behalf of someone else. But critics said the question of God’s reaction to prayer simply can’t be explored by scientific study.The study followed about 1,800 patients at six medical centers. It was financed by the Templeton Foundation, which supports research into science and religion, and one of the participating hospitals. It will appear in Tuesday’s issue of the American Heart Journal.The research team tested the effect of having three Christian groups pray for particular patients, starting the night before surgery and continuing for two weeks. The volunteers prayed for ‘‘a successful surgery with a quick, healthy recovery and no complications’’ for specific patients — their identities known only by first name and first initial of the last name.The patients, meanwhile, were split into three groups of about 600 apiece: those who knew they were being prayed for, those who were prayed for but only knew it was a possibility, and those who weren’t prayed for but were told it was a possibility.The researchers didn’t ask patients or their families and friends to alter any plans they had for prayer, saying such a step would have been unethical and impractical.The study looked for any complications within 30 days of the surgery. Results showed no effect of prayer on complication-free recovery. But 59 percent of the patients who knew they were being prayed for developed a complication, versus 52 percent of those who were told it was just a possibility.Koenig, of Duke University Medical Center, who didn’t take part in the study, said the results didn’t surprise him.‘‘There are no scientific grounds to expect a result and there are no real theological grounds to expect a result either,’’ he said. ‘‘There is no god in either the Christian, Jewish or Moslem scriptures that can be constrained to the point that they can be predicted.’’Within the Christian tradition, God would be expected to be concerned with a person’s eternal salvation, he said, and ‘‘why would God change his plans for a particular person just because they’re in a research study?’’Dr. David Stevens, executive director of the Christian Medical and Dental Associations, said he believes intercessory prayer can influence medical outcomes, but that science is not equipped to explore it.‘‘Do we control God through prayer? Theologians would say absolutely not. God decides sometimes to intervene, and sometimes not,’’ he said.As for the new study, he said, ‘‘I don’t think ... it’s going to stop people praying for the sick.’’

Every year there is a study proving it doesn't work and other say that it does. Newspaper print these things just to stir the pot. Now there will be people upset, they have proof it does work. I know someone who is convinced prayer worked for him. He had some rare disease that was cured by prayer. I of course did not say anything to deny his belief. I just shook my head and said wow really. I think he should give the doctors the credit, or even himself for recovering. Prayers are similar to tossing a coin, god will either say yes or no. 50/50 chance he will say no. If god says no, is it because those that prayed didn't pray hard enough? Not enough people prayed? Did the person deserved to be prayed for in the first place? God was too busy? I think prayer works for some but only for its a meditative effect for the person praying. Or maybe the patient is encouraged that someone cares enough. Or like the study said, they are scared that they must be very sick for everyone to be praying for them, they have no confidence in the doctor?
I once had a fundamentalist say she would pray for me, but the tone in her voice was insincere. She sounded as if she was going to pray to god to have me struck down. NICE Or maybe was really concerned I was going to hell. Doubt it. People like her thrive on the fact people like me will be punished for disagreeing with them. Isn't her fault she was unable to convince me?

Solar Eclipse

Superstition and science Superstitions followed the eclipse around the world, as they have for generations.
One Indian paper advised pregnant women not to go outside during the eclipse to avoid having a blind baby or one with a cleft lip. Food cooked before the eclipse should be thrown out afterward because it will be impure, and those who are holding a knife or ax during the eclipse will cut themselves, the Hindustan Times added.
In Turkey’s earthquake-prone Tokat province, residents set up tents outside, despite assurances from scientists that there was no evidence of any link between eclipses and tremors. In August 1999, an earthquake in northwestern Turkey killed about 17,000 people just six days after a solar eclipse.
Along the path of totality, the moon blacked out the sun for up to four minutes. That is longer than most eclipses, which only last a minute or two, according to a NASA statement.
Total eclipses are rare because they require the tilted orbits of the sun, moon and earth to line up exactly so that the moon obscures the sun completely. The next total eclipse will occur in 2008.

The (Christian) Constitution Party

Constitution Party on move
By MIKE DENNISON - IR State Bureau - 03/23/06
HELENA — A last-minute rush of filings this week by candidates from the conservative Constitution Party may end up benefiting someone else in the battle to control the Montana Legislature: Democrats.
Twenty-two Constitution Party candidates filed to run for the Legislature on Wednesday and Thursday, the last two days candidates could file to run for office in the 2006 elections.Many of those candidates filed in “swing’’ districts, where the race between the Democrat and Republican party candidates is expected to be close.Jim Farrell, executive director of the Montana Democratic Party, said Constitution Party candidates in those districts could peel away valuable votes that otherwise would go to Republicans.“Everywhere they run, we stand to win,’’ he said. “That splits the Republican vote.’’

Another wife/ mother snapped?

Thursday, March 23, 2006; Posted: 3:56 p.m. EST (20:56 GMT)
Tennessee

SELMER, Tennessee (AP) -- A popular and charismatic Tennessee minister was found shot to death in his parsonage, and authorities searched on Thursday for his wife and three young daughters.
Police Chief Neal Burks said it was unclear whether the family was abducted. He declined to say whether the wife was considered a suspect in the slaying.

Death Penalty for rejection of Islam

WHEELING, West Virginia (CNN) -- President Bush on Wednesday defended an Afghan Christian who is on trial for rejecting Islam and who could eventually face the death penalty.
"It is deeply troubling that a country we helped liberate would hold a person to account because they chose a particular religion over another," Bush said during a speaking engagement in Wheeling, West Virginia.

I remember it was a year or so ago, there was a non-believer i.e. athiest or humanist in Iran was was threatened with the death penalty. No one in the American Government cared about this poor guy. I don't know what happend to him. He is probably still in prison if not executed.