This is very bad news for the GAPAC group, now anyone who holds an office and even is seen talking to anyone from this group will be labeled as Godless. To make matters worse there is no comments section below this article for anyone to try and defend GAPAC or Ms. Hagan. This is a despicable add not because she was seen in the company of atheists but because it is a lie that Ms. Hagan is Godless. And even if she was, it should not make a difference. One doesn't have to be an unbeliever to support those who are fighting to keep our government secular.
I met Wendy Kaiminar at my first Humanist Conference almost 10 years ago. She is a good godless person. A Heroine
CNN) -- Kay Hagan erupted in anger Thursday over a television ad from Sen. Elizabeth Dole suggesting Hagan is "godless."
Kay Hagan, seen here in September, has served in the North Carolina state senate for 10 years.
"I think Elizabeth Dole has just gone to the lowest of the lows," Hagan said of the ad during an appearance on a talk show on WPTF-AM in Raleigh, North Carolina. "This is an attack on my Christian faith."
Hagan, who described herself as a Sunday school teacher and an elder at a Presbyterian church in Greensboro, North Carolina, urged Dole to "pull this kind of despicable ad."
Hagan, who is challenging Dole's re-election bid, filed an application in a Wake County, North Carolina, court Thursday, seeking permission to file a complaint within 20 days, after the election is over.
"The advertisement purposely misstates facts about the plaintiff," said the three-page application, which was filed in District Superior Court.
In the 30-second ad, a narrator says that a leader of the Godless Americans Political Action Committee recently held a "secret fundraiser" for Hagan.
The ad then shows members of the group, which promotes rights for atheists and the separation of church and state, declaring that neither God nor Jesus exists.
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"Godless Americans and Kay Hagan," the ad continues. "She hid from cameras. Took 'Godless' money. What did Kay Hagan promise in return?"
The ad ends with a picture of Hagan and a voice that sounds like hers declaring, "There is no God."
But the application said Hagan never made that statement or accepted money from the group.
Lawyers representing Dole and her campaign defended the ad Thursday as "100 percent factually accurate and truthful." The campaign for the GOP incumbent said it based its claims on Hagan's attendance at a fundraiser in the home of a GAPAC adviser.
"Kay Hagan attended a fundraiser event in Massachusetts in September held in the home of two anti-religion activists, Wendy Kaminer and her lawyer husband, Woody Kaplan," Dole's attorneys said in a letter to Hagan's lawyer.
They described Kaplan as a founder and advisory board member of the GAPAC. The letter said Kaplan and Kaminer were advisory board members of The Secular Coalition for America, which it described as "the national lobby for atheists, humanists, freethinkers and other nontheistic Americans with the unique mission of protecting their civil rights."
The lawyers also said Kaplan gave $2,300 to Hagan's campaign.
"This is politics of the worst kind, and I know it has been rejected by North Carolinians at every level," said Hagan.
Polls suggest Hagan -- a Democratic state senator from Greensboro who began the race at a major financial disadvantage to Dole -- is slightly ahead of the incumbent.
Oct 31, 2008
Greed per Micheal
The six deadly sins
By Michael Rissman - 10/31/08
Lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy, pride: which doesn’t belong? Greed of course. Greed is good. The others are all deadly sins. Greed is not good, of course: not good for the economy and not good for the soul. Free markets and free societies work when individuals act in their enlightened self-interest. Greed is in no one’s enlightened self-interest. On that secular humanists and those of all faiths agree.Of late in the United States, greed has been used to justify obscene transfers of wealth, not among classes but among generations. What could be more craven than running huge deficits to make our generation wealthier at the expense of the next?Obama seems to be wakening young Americans from torpor induced by the notion that greed is good. I wish for them a return to the classic values: prudence, temperance, courage and justice.But if McCain wins, I’ll make my peace with his belief that paying taxes is un-American. I’ll get to have my cake and eat it to. I won’t be greedy when I stop paying taxes; I’ll be a super-patriot.Michael Rissman
By Michael Rissman - 10/31/08
Lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy, pride: which doesn’t belong? Greed of course. Greed is good. The others are all deadly sins. Greed is not good, of course: not good for the economy and not good for the soul. Free markets and free societies work when individuals act in their enlightened self-interest. Greed is in no one’s enlightened self-interest. On that secular humanists and those of all faiths agree.Of late in the United States, greed has been used to justify obscene transfers of wealth, not among classes but among generations. What could be more craven than running huge deficits to make our generation wealthier at the expense of the next?Obama seems to be wakening young Americans from torpor induced by the notion that greed is good. I wish for them a return to the classic values: prudence, temperance, courage and justice.But if McCain wins, I’ll make my peace with his belief that paying taxes is un-American. I’ll get to have my cake and eat it to. I won’t be greedy when I stop paying taxes; I’ll be a super-patriot.Michael Rissman
Oct 29, 2008
Dole's 'Godless' Ad
There is nothing wrong with being God Free! Darn it
In a dirty campaign ad from Elizabeth Dole alleges her opponent is Kay Hagan is "Godless."
Supposedly the Godless Americans PAC held a fundraiser for Kay Hagan,” the ad also claims the group declares God and Jesus are not real. Hagan was said to have hidden from cameras, took godless money,” (How could it be godless money with "Under God' on all of U.S currency?) Dole's ad asks the threaten question “What did Kay Hagan promise in return?” I'm sure implying evil deeds.
"There is no God." is a quote in the ad that sounds like Hagan, but she never said that.
Hagan's did attend a fundraiser at he home of an advisor to the 'Godless Americans’ Pac that promotes rights for atheists. Who else attended?
In response to the ad, Hagan said she did know even know about the Godless PAC and said the fundraiser in question had more than 40 hosts, such as Sen. John Kerry. She asked her lawyers to issue a cease-and-desist order on the ad.
Hagan said. “This is politics of the worst kind." This is a fabricated, pathetic ad."
Hagan then fought back, by saying she was a Sunday school teacher and have the church confirm it.
In a dirty campaign ad from Elizabeth Dole alleges her opponent is Kay Hagan is "Godless."
Supposedly the Godless Americans PAC held a fundraiser for Kay Hagan,” the ad also claims the group declares God and Jesus are not real. Hagan was said to have hidden from cameras, took godless money,” (How could it be godless money with "Under God' on all of U.S currency?) Dole's ad asks the threaten question “What did Kay Hagan promise in return?” I'm sure implying evil deeds.
"There is no God." is a quote in the ad that sounds like Hagan, but she never said that.
Hagan's did attend a fundraiser at he home of an advisor to the 'Godless Americans’ Pac that promotes rights for atheists. Who else attended?
In response to the ad, Hagan said she did know even know about the Godless PAC and said the fundraiser in question had more than 40 hosts, such as Sen. John Kerry. She asked her lawyers to issue a cease-and-desist order on the ad.
Hagan said. “This is politics of the worst kind." This is a fabricated, pathetic ad."
Hagan then fought back, by saying she was a Sunday school teacher and have the church confirm it.
SOB Stokes Back in the News
Stokes is Rush on meth
The Constitution Party and the Libertarian Party in bed together. Gross out! Stokes is a bigot in Kalispell who moved here from out of state and makes a living pushing peoples buttons. He was given all kinds of press for way too long, and now someone has gone and done it again. I wish someone like me could get the attention he does. (Maybe not)
Its too much fun watching the Republican party falling apart. Capitalism and Christianity at its very best
“People are just fed up with the mainstream parties,” said John Stokes, owner of Z-600 AM radio station in Kalispell. “Folks see this country is on a downward slope, and not adhering to the Constitution.”
Give us a break Stokes, a few crazies like you that is.
Ron Paul could play spoiler Nov. 4
By MATT GOURAS - Associated Press - 10/29/08
AP Photo/Matt Gouras - Z-600 AM radio station owner John Stokes poses outside his radio station in Kalispell on Oct. 23. He uses his talk show to advance Ron Paul, who is on the ballot in Montana under The Constitution Party banner and could steal votes from Republican John McCain. Montana is typically safe territory for Republican presidential candidates — President Bush won the state by about 20 points in both 2000 and 2004, and only two Democratic presidential candidates have carried the state since 1948.
But Obama staked out Montana early on as a potential battleground state and he's sticking with it to the end.
KALISPELL — Along a stretch of Highway 93, signs supporting former GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul almost outnumber those of the party’s presidential nominee, John McCain.
It’s been months since Paul officially left the race, and yet a series of circumstances has the Texas congressman right in the middle of the presidential race in Montana. Political observers say Paul, on the ballot as a third-party candidate, will likely draw some votes away from McCain. (appreciate that guys)
And if the race is close, Paul could be the difference. (like the Stan and Tester race)
“Ron Paul is the wild card,” said David Hart, who oversaw Paul’s campaign in Montana during the primary. “A lot of people are not happy with that.” (Stokes loves pissing people off)
In parts of western Montana, Paul attracts independent-minded (irrational)voters who are drawn to a libertarian message. Only in Montana does Paul appear on the ballot as a Constitution Party candidate.
Stokes has erected a large “Ron Paul Revolution” sign outside the station and uses his talk show to promote Paul. He said he wouldn’t be surprised if Paul gets 8 to 10 percent of the vote in Montana on Nov. 4.
None of this would have been possible without Paul’s supporters, who put his name forward as the Constitution Party of Montana candidate. Paul later asked the secretary of state’s office to remove his name from the ballot, but state officials said they couldn’t. (Hysterical)
Paul has not been campaigning in the state and has even asked supporters to write in Chuck Baldwin, the national Constitution Party candidate. Paul did not respond to requests for an interview.
During the GOP primary, some of Paul’s strongest support came in Montana. He received about a quarter of the vote in the state’s June primary — even after it was clear McCain was the party’s presumptive nominee.
Now he could play spoiler to McCain, whose lead in the polls in Montana has diminished. A recent MSU-Billings poll had the presidential race within the margin of error, with Paul drawing 4 percent.
Democrat Barack Obama has been sinking money and resources into Montana in attempt to turn the traditionally red state blue. McCain has largely ignored the state, although the Republican National Committee will begin independently airing ads in Montana this week.
“Absolutely he (Paul) will pull some votes from McCain,” said MSU-Billings political scientist Craig Wilson. “It potentially could make it competitive.”
Gov. Brian Schweitzer agrees. The Democrat is supporting Obama and believes Paul could help Obama carry a state that has backed the Republican presidential candidate all but two times since 1948. The last time a Democrat won Montana was in 1992, when third-party candidate Ross Perot siphoned some votes from Republican George H.W. Bush.
“That’s why they are tied,” Schweitzer said, referring to Paul’s popularity in Montana.
Schweitzer said those who vote on the gun issue will have trouble backing either Obama or McCain. The Montana Shootings Sports Association has told members that a principled voter should choose Paul over McCain.
The McCain campaign has brushed aside worries about Paul, insisting the race is between McCain and Obama.
Hart, who worked for Paul during the primary, said plenty of people in Flathead County will still vote for Paul. While many Paul supporters have said they will vote for McCain, others want to choose “principle over party,” Hart said.
Hart still receives requests for yard signs, and he often obliges by handing out leftovers from Paul’s primary campaign. Hart, who is also getting more involved in the local Republican Party, understands there could be some hurt feelings if Paul steals some votes from McCain.
“If Obama were to carry Montana, they are going to point a finger at me,” he said. “But the reality is they should be looking in the mirror.”
Why do Republicans keep saying they are finanical & social conservatives, when they are obviously not. What was that happened recently, thats right, a 700 Billion handhout, 2 privately contracted wars, and to top it off abortion is still legal. Wow! Impressive
The Constitution Party and the Libertarian Party in bed together. Gross out! Stokes is a bigot in Kalispell who moved here from out of state and makes a living pushing peoples buttons. He was given all kinds of press for way too long, and now someone has gone and done it again. I wish someone like me could get the attention he does. (Maybe not)
Its too much fun watching the Republican party falling apart. Capitalism and Christianity at its very best
“People are just fed up with the mainstream parties,” said John Stokes, owner of Z-600 AM radio station in Kalispell. “Folks see this country is on a downward slope, and not adhering to the Constitution.”
Give us a break Stokes, a few crazies like you that is.
Ron Paul could play spoiler Nov. 4
By MATT GOURAS - Associated Press - 10/29/08
AP Photo/Matt Gouras - Z-600 AM radio station owner John Stokes poses outside his radio station in Kalispell on Oct. 23. He uses his talk show to advance Ron Paul, who is on the ballot in Montana under The Constitution Party banner and could steal votes from Republican John McCain. Montana is typically safe territory for Republican presidential candidates — President Bush won the state by about 20 points in both 2000 and 2004, and only two Democratic presidential candidates have carried the state since 1948.
But Obama staked out Montana early on as a potential battleground state and he's sticking with it to the end.
KALISPELL — Along a stretch of Highway 93, signs supporting former GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul almost outnumber those of the party’s presidential nominee, John McCain.
It’s been months since Paul officially left the race, and yet a series of circumstances has the Texas congressman right in the middle of the presidential race in Montana. Political observers say Paul, on the ballot as a third-party candidate, will likely draw some votes away from McCain. (appreciate that guys)
And if the race is close, Paul could be the difference. (like the Stan and Tester race)
“Ron Paul is the wild card,” said David Hart, who oversaw Paul’s campaign in Montana during the primary. “A lot of people are not happy with that.” (Stokes loves pissing people off)
In parts of western Montana, Paul attracts independent-minded (irrational)voters who are drawn to a libertarian message. Only in Montana does Paul appear on the ballot as a Constitution Party candidate.
Stokes has erected a large “Ron Paul Revolution” sign outside the station and uses his talk show to promote Paul. He said he wouldn’t be surprised if Paul gets 8 to 10 percent of the vote in Montana on Nov. 4.
None of this would have been possible without Paul’s supporters, who put his name forward as the Constitution Party of Montana candidate. Paul later asked the secretary of state’s office to remove his name from the ballot, but state officials said they couldn’t. (Hysterical)
Paul has not been campaigning in the state and has even asked supporters to write in Chuck Baldwin, the national Constitution Party candidate. Paul did not respond to requests for an interview.
During the GOP primary, some of Paul’s strongest support came in Montana. He received about a quarter of the vote in the state’s June primary — even after it was clear McCain was the party’s presumptive nominee.
Now he could play spoiler to McCain, whose lead in the polls in Montana has diminished. A recent MSU-Billings poll had the presidential race within the margin of error, with Paul drawing 4 percent.
Democrat Barack Obama has been sinking money and resources into Montana in attempt to turn the traditionally red state blue. McCain has largely ignored the state, although the Republican National Committee will begin independently airing ads in Montana this week.
“Absolutely he (Paul) will pull some votes from McCain,” said MSU-Billings political scientist Craig Wilson. “It potentially could make it competitive.”
Gov. Brian Schweitzer agrees. The Democrat is supporting Obama and believes Paul could help Obama carry a state that has backed the Republican presidential candidate all but two times since 1948. The last time a Democrat won Montana was in 1992, when third-party candidate Ross Perot siphoned some votes from Republican George H.W. Bush.
“That’s why they are tied,” Schweitzer said, referring to Paul’s popularity in Montana.
Schweitzer said those who vote on the gun issue will have trouble backing either Obama or McCain. The Montana Shootings Sports Association has told members that a principled voter should choose Paul over McCain.
The McCain campaign has brushed aside worries about Paul, insisting the race is between McCain and Obama.
Hart, who worked for Paul during the primary, said plenty of people in Flathead County will still vote for Paul. While many Paul supporters have said they will vote for McCain, others want to choose “principle over party,” Hart said.
Hart still receives requests for yard signs, and he often obliges by handing out leftovers from Paul’s primary campaign. Hart, who is also getting more involved in the local Republican Party, understands there could be some hurt feelings if Paul steals some votes from McCain.
“If Obama were to carry Montana, they are going to point a finger at me,” he said. “But the reality is they should be looking in the mirror.”
Why do Republicans keep saying they are finanical & social conservatives, when they are obviously not. What was that happened recently, thats right, a 700 Billion handhout, 2 privately contracted wars, and to top it off abortion is still legal. Wow! Impressive
Oct 24, 2008
Parade draws fire for dropping 'Christmas'
My Gawd! Its not even Halloween yet and the war against Christmas has started. Christmas is 2 months away. What ever happened to the 40 days of Christmas? Even 40 days is way too much in my opinion. Christmas Eve and Christmas day should be the only two days anyone should have to hear the words "Merry Christmas"
I will stay out of the stores and buy xmas/soltice gifts online to avoid being constantly reminded I am NOT a Christian.
Fireworks company is pulling out of event word was dropped from event (GOOD)
updated 7:28 p.m. MT, Thurs., Oct. 23, 2008
PATCHOGUE, N.Y. - A famed fireworks company is pulling out of a holiday boat parade because "Christmas" was dropped from the event's name.
Fireworks by Grucci won't lend its sparkle to Patchogue's Nov. 23 parade — decorated yachts on the Patchogue River — because the organizers have renamed it the Patchogue Holiday Boat Parade. It was the Patchogue Christmas Boat Parade last year, when the Grucci company donated $5,000 worth of fireworks.
The company's vice president, Philip Butler, who has criticized the secularization of Christmas in the past, said parade organizers were "using all the themes of Christmas and plagiarizing all those themes."
Organizers in the Long Island town said the parade has had several names over its roughly 15-year existence. The name was changed again this year after complaints that the use of "Christmas" seemed to make the parade less inclusive.
"When I think about fireworks, I don't think about Christmas anyway," Mayor Paul Pontieri said. "I think about the Fourth of July."
The venerable Grucci company is famous for providing spectacular fireworks displays at major national celebrations. It is based in Brookhaven, not far from Patchogue
I will stay out of the stores and buy xmas/soltice gifts online to avoid being constantly reminded I am NOT a Christian.
Fireworks company is pulling out of event word was dropped from event (GOOD)
updated 7:28 p.m. MT, Thurs., Oct. 23, 2008
PATCHOGUE, N.Y. - A famed fireworks company is pulling out of a holiday boat parade because "Christmas" was dropped from the event's name.
Fireworks by Grucci won't lend its sparkle to Patchogue's Nov. 23 parade — decorated yachts on the Patchogue River — because the organizers have renamed it the Patchogue Holiday Boat Parade. It was the Patchogue Christmas Boat Parade last year, when the Grucci company donated $5,000 worth of fireworks.
The company's vice president, Philip Butler, who has criticized the secularization of Christmas in the past, said parade organizers were "using all the themes of Christmas and plagiarizing all those themes."
Organizers in the Long Island town said the parade has had several names over its roughly 15-year existence. The name was changed again this year after complaints that the use of "Christmas" seemed to make the parade less inclusive.
"When I think about fireworks, I don't think about Christmas anyway," Mayor Paul Pontieri said. "I think about the Fourth of July."
The venerable Grucci company is famous for providing spectacular fireworks displays at major national celebrations. It is based in Brookhaven, not far from Patchogue
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