Mr. Wise is archaic per Mary

Wise’s rants
By Mary 01/31/08
I find it super frustrating that Dr. William Wise continues to “rant” in the Helena IR about sex education when clearly the man hasn’t updated his own knowledge with current facts in what seems to be a long time.

He ends his rant with, “In Uganda, where abstinence ed before marriage and monogamy after marriage has been taught, it is the only sub-Saharan county to achieve a decrease in HIV/AIDs statistics.” WHAT? In Uganda they probably kill women who have sex before they are married and stone them to death for allegedly being unfaithful to their beloved husbands at the age of what, 16, 17? I find this comparison to be as archaic as Mr. Wise’s ideology.

Mr. Wise, I know you really believe that informing and educating our youth on fact based sex education is “encouraging” them to have sex at younger and younger ages, but that simply isn’t true. You are cherry picking a statistic here and a statistic there. If your theories were right and all we had to do is tell our youth to please abstain from sex until you are married don’t you think we would all happily do that? It simply doesn’t work like that, sir.

Children's Prayers and more cute comments

3-year-old Reese :
'Our Father, Who does art in heaven,
Harold is His name
Amen.'
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A little boy was overheard praying:
'Lord, if you can't make me a better boy, don't worry about it.
I'm having a real good time like I am.'
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After the christening of his baby brother in church,
Jason sobbed all the way home in the back seat of the car.
His father asked him three times what was wrong.
Finally, the boy replied,
'That preacher said he wanted us brought up in a Christian home,
and I wanted to stay with you guys.'
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One particular four-year-old prayed,
'And forgive us our trash baskets
as we forgive those who put trash in our baskets.'
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A Sunday school teacher asked her children as they
were on the way to church service,
'And why is it necessary to be quiet in church?' One bright little girl replied,
'Because people are sleeping.'
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A mother was preparing pancakes for her sons, Kevin 5, and Ryan 3.
The boys began to argue over who would get the first pancake.
Their mother saw the opportunity for a moral lesson.
'If Jesus were sitting here, He would say,
'Let my brother have the first pancake, I can wait.'
Kevin turned to his younger brother and said,
' Ryan , you be Jesus !'
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A father was at the beach with his children
when the four-year-old son ran up to him,
grabbed his hand, and led him to the shore
where a seagull lay dead in the sand.
'Daddy, what happened to him?' the son asked.
'He died and went to Heaven,' the Dad replied.
The boy thought a moment and then said,
'Did God throw him back down?'
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A wife invited some people to dinner.
At the table, she turned to their six-year-old daughter and said,
'Would you like to say the blessing?'
'I wouldn't know what to say,' the girl replied.
'Just say what you hear Mommy say,' the wife answered.
The daughter bowed her head and said,
'Lord, why on earth did I invite all these people to dinner?'

What next? per Clara

What next?
By Clara Young, Box 313, Avon - 01/22/08
I strongly feel that we of Christian faith should not purchase anything that has reference to our Christmas or Easter celebrations, such as decorations or cards, that are made in China.It is a country that persecutes Christian believers. Shame on us for letting a foreign nation make our national flag and other emblems.Also, who made the decision to remove “In God We Trust” from the front of the new gold dollar and put it in a insignificant place? What will be removed next?

Clara,
First of all, it's all religions the Chinese reject not only the Christian faith, and by the way there are churches in China.

They only moved the unconstitutional phrase "In God We Trust" from the front of the new gold coin to the rim.

It should be removed completely and replaced with the original motto "E pluribus unum . For those who don't know what it means , it's "Out of Many, One"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_pluribus_unum

Search & Rescue

Avalanches have killed at least 22 people across the West since Dec. 2. The national average for avalanche deaths is about 25 a year, according to the Colorado Avalanche Information Center.

Between lost & shot hunters, snowmobilers/ATV riders, and skiers How much are taxpayers spending on these people who kill or hurt themselves playing around? Just wondering. And don't forget the rock climbers.

An Atheist in the Pulpit

An Atheist in the Pulpit
Public identity and private belief are never more at odds than when a preacher loses his faith.
By: Bruce Grierson

James McAllister, a 56-year-old Lutheran minister in the midwest, was working on his sunday sermon one Thursday afternoon last summer. It wasn't going well. The reverend wasn't suffering from writer's block—in fact, he was crafting quite an elegant parable about "the importance of making our whole lives a prayer." No, the problem was bigger than that. The sermon skated around a private truth that McAllister could no longer deny.
McAllister has learned that you can tell inspirational stories, grounded in social justice and tolerance and peace, without having to bring God into the picture—and this sermon was a masterful case in point. A woman in his congregation had recently dropped everything to care for her cancer-stricken daughter, and that selfless commitment was sacred in its way. "You can see how I cook the books a little bit to make it easier to look in the mirror," he says of his sermons. "But there are times when I get that sort of empty feeling in my stomach, like I'm a fraud."
Three months ago, McAllister, who is presented pseudonymously here, took his crisis to the bishop. He'd lost the faith, he explained, and he wanted out.
"Oh you're not quitting," she said, waving her hand dismissively. "You haven't lost your faith."
"Um, yeah I have," McAllister said. "This is for real."
The bishop shook her head. For the church elders, McAllister's revelations simply did not compute.
"They're either in complete denial," he says, "or they're completely comfortable with the idea that they have a pastor who's a fraud, as long as he puts asses in the seats."
McAllister took the issue up with his psychiatrist. "It emerged that she was a devout Christian herself," he says. "To her credit, she tried to be professional." Where she had once begun and ended their sessions with prayer, she stopped when he asked her to. "But I could see she was squirming. You know, she was sitting with a man of the cloth who had lost it. She had problems with that."
To be a clergyman struggling with God in 2008 is to reside at the center of a great battle. At a time when the tension between faith and doubt arguably defines the distance between people more than does gender or race or even politics, the Doubting Priest bears witness for the defense and the prosecution. (Mother Teresa's grave spiritual doubt, as revealed last fall in her letters, means one of two things: Either the closest thing to a modern saint was a phony, or her trials actually make her religious life more meaningful, a poignant example of faith not as a certainty but as a required test that leads to a more profound commitment.) The spiritual struggles of ministers and priests and rabbis remind us that, amid encroaching fundamentalism, atheism is also on the rise. The neo-atheist movement is fueled by outspoken academics and intellectuals including Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and others who bombard the airwaves and bestseller lists with their calls for deconversion. You can now send your kid to an atheist summer camp or get yourself certifiably "de-baptized." (Britain's national Secular Society offers the service: "Liberate yourself from the original mumbo jumbo that liberated you from the original sin you never had.") There are hundreds of college-campus groups devoted to secular humanism. The Atheist Alliance International reports "so many speaking requests that leaders of national atheist groups can't keep up."
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The Couple chose Montana

This article was of interest due to my being a Humanist Minister. I have sent the article to the American Humanists.
Its interesting how each state has different laws concerning Marriage. I forsee a future where this will be taken to the Supreme Court and turned into federal law. Since people are moving around so much and people marry in different states.... The gay marriage issue is fought state by state. They need to change the law were each state is required to accept all ceremonies no matter where they got married and to whom and (who performed the ceremony)

The Feds did the same thing with commerce why not this. The right to vote .....many other examples.

States rights? Still relevant in a shrinking world?


United a world apart
By ALANA LISTOE - Independent Record - 01/17/08

George Lane IR staff photographer - The media talks with Spc. Barbara Hines and Sgt. Ryan Thompson, who are on cell phones, before the start of their proxy wedding. Spc. Hines is stationed in Afghanistan and Sgt. Thompson is stationed in Qatar. Major Garth Scott is holding the cell phones.
Spc. Barbara Hines wasn’t wearing a dress for her wedding late Wednesday morning.

There were no fresh flowers, no bridesmaids, and the only guests were military personnel and members of the media.

Hines, of Dothan, Ala., married Sgt. Ryan Thompson, of Riverview, Fla., by double-proxy at the Canyon Ferry Mansion near Townsend.

There were no members of the couple’s family in attendance as neither have any Montana connections. The couple attended via cell phone in a short service, organized by mansion owner Sandy Rose and presided over by Montana National Guard Chaplain Ken DuVall.

Hines and Thompson are deployed active duty soldiers and hope their official union will allow them to become stationed in the same area through the Army’s Married Couples Program. Hines, 29, is stationed in Afghanistan and Thompson, 25, in Qatar.

“It’s something I’ll always remember,” Hines said via speaker phone.

The proxy stand-ins were Sgt. 1st Class Michael Anderson and Capt. Tracy Anderson of Helena. The Andersons have never met the couple and, until Wednesday, didn’t even know their names.

The Andersons have been married for 14 years, and both have been in the military the entire time.

“It was a nice way to honor a couple serving our country that wants to be together,” Tracy said. “We are here standing in for them, and if this helps get them together, it will make it more special.”

Tracy said holding hands with her husband saying vows brought back the memories of their wedding day at the Cathedral of St. Helena so many years ago.

The couple chose Montana because it is the only state that allows this type of ceremony.

Thompson said he found out about the Montana law and the Canyon Ferry Mansion through Google.

This is the second time around for the couple as they were married once before.

After years of talking, they worked to reconcile their relationship. The couple has a 5-year-old son, Daniel, who is living in Alabama with Hines’ sister. They don’t expect to see each other until May and are hoping to be stationed together in Germany by February of next year.

“I love you,” Thompson told his bride over the phone outside the church. “This is for real, it’s not a joke, it’s for keeps. I love you, Mrs. Thompson.”

“I love you, Mr. Thompson,” Hines said.

This is the first time the Montana National Guard has been involved in a double-proxy marriage, said Maj. Garth Scott, public relations officer.

“It’s quite an opportunity for our chaplain and the Guard to show this kind of support for our active duty brothers and sisters,” Scott said.

DuVall said the ceremony was the most difficult he’s ever performed. He organized the service through e-mails with the couple.

He suggested the couple keep “three C’s” in mind for a successful marriage: communication, commitment and church.

Communication, he said during the service, is something couples can’t do enough of; and because men and women are different, they need to talk, talk and talk.

Commitment ensures that the couple never gives up, he said, and church nourishes their spirituality.

Thompson credits Rose for making the event come to fruition.

“She ran with it,” he said. “She deserves all the credit. It wouldn’t have happened without her.”

Rose was tickled to get the call just a week ago from Thompson asking for her assistance.

“It’s the best thing to happen since they put a man on the moon the day my son was born,” she said.

Reporter Alana Listoe: 447-4081 or alana.listoe@helenair.com

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